30 August 2005

I could not have said it better...

Senator Helms has spoken his piece on abortion.
I could not agree more. We can do so much better than killing unwanted children in this day and age... It's funny, how we as a society allow it to continue here while condemn the extermination of unwanted children in other societies... Perhaps an unborn child looks different to us, somhow less worthy of the rights that we so viciously claim for ourselves. To me, a child is child... a child unborn, if left alone, will be walking their own path and forming their own oppinions soon enough. I mean, I was an unborn child once! So was every last person reading this.

3 Comments:

Blogger Liam said...

Those are good sentiments, CF. In this day and age we certainly should be able to provide for unwanted children. But if that’s your only argument for stopping abortion, I think there is a bigger picture to see: There are 12.9 million American children living in poverty. That is the second highest rate in the world; nearly a quarter of all children in the USA. That’s a pretty disgusting statistic for the world’s largest and (almost) richest economy.

A child unborn, if left alone, will die if it isn’t fed and clothed; it will become a savage, forming no opinions, unless it is raised and educated properly. Perhaps more effort should be made to provide a minimum standard of living for all children before going out of the way to add more unwanted ones to the population?

30 August, 2005  
Blogger Charlie Foxtrot said...

so death is better than poverty? That seems a shaky piece of real estate at best.

Poverty has nothing to do with this. Anyone can go to school in this country, and I bet in yours too. Anyone can get health care. Anyone has a chance. Also, income below 50% of the national median is NOT poverty. I grew up in a house like that and I was never disadvantaged. Also, please don't even try to tell me that China and India have lower child poverty rates than the US... in fact, where were the third world nations on that chart? You know, the ones where the median income is a triple digit number...

No, this is about killing humans because they are unwanted. I can not see past that.

31 August, 2005  
Blogger Liam said...

No, my point was more aimed at the apparent contradiction of insisting on a right to life while failing to ensure that the children who are born are cherished. You make the point that being born into a low-income family doesn’t equate with disadvantage. That’s true if a child is ‘wanted’ and loved but I don’t think it is so true for unwanted children. Incidentally the 12.9 million figure is from a different source from the rest and uses the US Government’s own definition of poverty, which I understand is considerably tighter than the UN-based 50% of median. Anyway, you are right; this strand isn’t an argument about abortion. If you want the essence of my views on that, look at the comments I made on this post.

It’s true that anyone can go to school – but look up some stats relating attendance to family income and I suspect you’ll find that, as in the UK, children from poorer families have worse attendance records, worse exam results and leave education earlier. Similarly with healthcare; do you get the same depth of care if you are on welfare as opposed to being insured to the gunnels?

It’s interesting you should ask about the US’s position relative to China and India as the result surprised me. You can click onto the maps at the bottom of the pages to drill down to each country for more stats. Unfortunately they don’t have specific child-poverty figures for China/India but they do have overall population-poverty figures. China is best of the three at 119/130 with only 10% of its population living in poverty. The USA is next, ranking 116/130 with 12% of its population and India is the worst (94th / 130 with 25%).

01 September, 2005  

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